tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post2907991920961630809..comments2024-03-09T04:13:07.622-06:00Comments on crAAKKer: The WSOP Ladies Event "Discount" BlunderGrange95http://www.blogger.com/profile/01857460215043659894noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-54222022693441302992019-02-17T20:48:44.403-06:002019-02-17T20:48:44.403-06:00BOLAVITA AGEN SABUNG AYAM TERBESAR DI INDONESIA !...BOLAVITA AGEN SABUNG AYAM TERBESAR DI INDONESIA !<br />KUNJUNGI SEKARANG WEBSITE <a href="http://www.ayamonline.net/" rel="nofollow"> SABUNG AYAM ONLINE </a><br />DAN RAIH KEMENANGAN TIAP PERTANDINGAN SABUNG AYAM BERSAMA KAMI :) <br /><br />WA: 0812-2222-995<br />BBM : BOLAVITA <br />WeChat : BOLAVITA<br />Line : cs_bolavita<br /><br /><a href="https://netprediksi.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> BOCORAN TOGEL HARI INI </a>Murni Bolavitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02722380051101373740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-64409193930537905052013-02-19T16:52:32.850-06:002013-02-19T16:52:32.850-06:00Grange, the issue here is what is the goal? The WS...Grange, the issue here is what is the goal? The WSOP was never intended to be a champion of morality. So, the argument that, "'ladies discount' rule forfeits the WSOP's moral high ground in the Ladies Event debate," is off base, even if it is true (something that I do not necessarily concede). The goal of the event is to create an environment in which women feel comfortable. It was never intended to be an opportunity for the WSOP to show off its high moral fiber. Therefore, suggesting that the plan forfeits the WSOP's moral high ground is irrelevant. What is important is that women will feel encouraged to play the tournament and those in the past who were turned off by the male entrants can now at least take comfort in knowing that any male who plays is putting himself at a huge disadvantage. Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-32065229318988056892013-02-16T13:55:00.920-06:002013-02-16T13:55:00.920-06:00While I agree the WSOP has ceded the moral high gr...While I agree the WSOP has ceded the moral high ground on this issue, I think Change100 is also right. Yes a gentleman wouldn't think to enter a "Ladies only" event even if they had the right to do it, but I think you'd have to agree that the amount of rude d-bags by percentage seems to be at least as high in the poker world as in the outside world. And there is no shortage of them out here. <br /><br />Just as the Senior event is the highlight for many older guys for the year, the Ladies event is the highlight for many women. While I believe more and more women will think like my wife does and want to play and beat the best, not just women, we cannot overlook the fact that the women's event does draw 1000 or more women while even tournaments as well attended as the main event only had 211 women out of 6597 players. There may come a time when the Ladies event becomes obsolete but it definitely isn't there yet. <br /><br />I don't doubt there are some well heeled d-bags who will pay the 10K regardless, I think they are in the minority and this rule will do a lot to curb the majority of yahoos from playing in the event. I just don't think the WSOP could depend on the disapproval of the 99% from preventing the asshats of the world from playing the women's event. It hasn't worked so far at least. This seems to be the best legal way for the WSOP to make their point. And they made it in a poker kind of way. Yes a man can play in the tourney but they start out at a 10-1 disadvantage to their competitors. Even most rude d-bags are good enough players to understand those odds. <br /><br />And I agree with Arnie too. In the interest of fairness, the WSOP needs to do the same thing for the men and keep those pesky women out of one tourney as well. The Neophytehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11606959676407800658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-55960126327517201372013-02-16T05:44:29.178-06:002013-02-16T05:44:29.178-06:00Isn't the simplest thing just to have a men on...Isn't the simplest thing just to have a men only event identical to the ladies?arniejokinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13227900092409791124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-34934839007055324992013-02-15T17:46:56.212-06:002013-02-15T17:46:56.212-06:00While I don't entirely agree with it, you pres...While I don't entirely agree with it, you present an interesting argument. I do maintain that the WSOP came up with the best solution possible to the problem under the current legal landscape. <br /><br />I'm not too familiar with Nevada law and if or when it changed with regard to discrimination. If it turns out it was in the last four years, it would actually make a lot of sense. To my knowledge, the issues with men entering the WSOP Ladies Event first arose in 2009. Before that, it wasn't an issue, although its mere existence was certainly debated to death (and not having to write the same "zombie" op-ed year in and year out is a perk of tournament reporting retirement). <br /><br />Even if the law didn't change, the culture in poker has. The overt sexism in the game may be a bit more muted these days, but the compulsion to push any perceived edge, even at the expense of looking like a total asshole, has flourished in inverse proportion to the poker boom and perhaps the economy itself. <br /><br />Since it is not possible to stop guys from being d-bags when it comes to the Ladies' Event, the WSOP decided to charge them for being d-bags. I don't think they wanted to do it this way, and I have personally witnessed some of their efforts to try and remedy the situation over the last four years. <br /><br />I believe it's important to preserve the Ladies' Event. But I don't believe this measure "changes the Ladies Event from charming to demeaning, and from celebratory to vitriolic." I think WSOP brass is trying to take on the role of bouncer at the door, and I for one am glad they're there. <br /><br />(And if say, 100 of the top NLHE geniuses decide to pay $10k apiece to invade the tournament to prove their "edge"? Well, the 90 that don't cash will have dents in their rolls and egg on their faces while the 10 that do will be the new patron saints of their asshole brethren. Neither spot is too enviable.) <br />change100https://www.blogger.com/profile/18345734448270997870noreply@blogger.com