tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post3650876252430978105..comments2024-03-27T04:14:38.477-05:00Comments on crAAKKer: Don't Kill the RefsGrange95http://www.blogger.com/profile/01857460215043659894noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-5208817825991239752019-02-17T20:47:40.831-06:002019-02-17T20:47:40.831-06:00BOLAVITA AGEN SABUNG AYAM TERBESAR DI INDONESIA !...BOLAVITA AGEN SABUNG AYAM TERBESAR DI INDONESIA !<br />KUNJUNGI SEKARANG WEBSITE <a href="http://www.ayamonline.net/" rel="nofollow"> SABUNG AYAM ONLINE </a><br />DAN RAIH KEMENANGAN TIAP PERTANDINGAN SABUNG AYAM BERSAMA KAMI :) <br /><br />WA: 0812-2222-995<br />BBM : BOLAVITA <br />WeChat : BOLAVITA<br />Line : cs_bolavita<br /><br /><a href="https://netprediksi.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> BOCORAN TOGEL HARI INI </a>Murni Bolavitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02722380051101373740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-13556778679183448182013-03-29T17:15:43.447-05:002013-03-29T17:15:43.447-05:00Last night's Arizona vs OSU game demonstrated ...Last night's Arizona vs OSU game demonstrated why you don't want instant replay. Refs stopping the game after Ross 3 was ridiculous as there was not a question that it was a 3 and Arizona effectively getting a free timeout so the officials could verify the clock should be at 2.2 seconds instead of 2 was ridonkulous.<br /><br />Bayne_Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00102763865455445325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-74223475624125290802013-03-26T16:00:05.798-05:002013-03-26T16:00:05.798-05:00@Michael M: You might want to rethink whether one...@Michael M: You might want to rethink whether one bad call at the very near end of the game can cause a loss of the game. Of course a bad call can. And, it damn sure can cause the loss regardless of any and all previously made good and bad calls. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-14797041893126520422013-03-25T22:40:39.841-05:002013-03-25T22:40:39.841-05:00@ KenP: Over the course of this game, each team ha...@ KenP: Over the course of this game, each team had ~90 offensive possessions. Can you really say that one bad call on one possession out of 180 "caused" the loss?Grange95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01857460215043659894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-63764987805201635652013-03-25T13:31:36.703-05:002013-03-25T13:31:36.703-05:00Right, don't kill the refs; that's too goo...Right, don't kill the refs; that's too good for them. <br /><br />Without replay you must depend on human frailty and a healthy dose of normal bias. True of us all.<br /><br />As to your 39 minute premise, come on. Down to the wire games are what sports nuts love and an indication that the teams playing deserve the contest. So you don't blow the other guy out and thus deserve to be gutted?<br />KenPhttp://www.pokerperambulation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-22670637446032631162013-03-25T09:18:02.231-05:002013-03-25T09:18:02.231-05:00@Memphis MOJO: Re more use of replay, I'm torn...@Memphis MOJO: Re more use of replay, I'm torn. Obviously we want calls to be correct. But basketball is very much a game of flow and momentum. Replay can kill that flow and give a team an advantage. Also, I can't see ever using replay for foul calls, which are pure judgment. But I do like replay for limited siutations, like in/out of bounds, and timing issues (essentially what it is used for at present).Grange95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01857460215043659894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-61284209448280949962013-03-25T09:15:09.264-05:002013-03-25T09:15:09.264-05:00@ JT88Keys: Check out the slow-mo replay here: ht...@ JT88Keys: Check out the slow-mo replay here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/fan-reaction-did-refs-charging-call-iowa-state-195947482--ncaab.html<br /><br />Craft's left foot is down (establishing legal guarding position) before Clyburn's left (lead) foot leaves the ground. Clyburn then jumps forward into Cravft. So Craft is not "sliding under" Clyburn like many Cyclone fans claim. If this play occurred further out from the basket, it's a charge (though admittedly a very close, bang-bang play). But since this play occurred with the defender in the restricted area (barely), it should have been called a charge. However, there's no way the baseline official (the one making the call) can see Craft's heel over the line, and the backside trail official probably sees the floor instead of the line because of the heel lift. So, a very tough call to get right at game speed.<br /><br />As for late game calls being "magnified", that's a pure fallacy. Assume (purely hypothetically) that we went back over the game tape and found that Ohio St. had been jobbed on a net of four calls worth an expected value of 10 points in the first 39 minutes of the game. Did the Craft-Clyburn block-charge wrong call still "decide" the game any more than the other wrong calls?<br /><br />Or what about a block-charge early in the second half of a game involving two star players, each playing with 3 fouls. Get that call wrong, and the impact is enormous, lasting possibly for 10 minutes of game time. I think that call is more "magnified" than an isolated call in the last minute. At the very least, one call in the last minute is no more and no less significant than any call earlier in the game. Late calls just <i>feel</i> more signficant because of the dramatic tension of the conclusion of the game.* (And don't forget Iowa State had chances to win after that call, and blew those on their own without any help from the refs).<br /><br />I thought the game was pretty well-officiated. The game had good flow, there weren't excessive fouls keeping key players out of the game, fouls were even overall (and the Cyclones reached the bonus before the Buckeyes in the second half). In fact, the box score was about as even as I've ever seen--except for turnovers. Maybe if the Cyclones had kept the turnovers under 10, they would have held a 6-10 point lead heading into the final minute. But it isn't as much fun for fans to play the hypotehtical game with player errors. Nope, blame the refs.**<br /><br />*One possible exception is a shot at the buzzer: Was it in time? A 2 or a 3? But we have replay to answer those questions, usually rather definitively.<br /><br />** That being said, I have seen some games where the refs had a huge impact on the outcome. But those situations are generally where the refs call an overly loose or overly tight game, which affects either star player(s) or a team's overall execution and game plan.Grange95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01857460215043659894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-37562966747857096542013-03-25T07:06:18.048-05:002013-03-25T07:06:18.048-05:00Take this for what it's worth...a comment from...Take this for what it's worth...a comment from an Iowa Hawkeye fan who roots for ISU when they aren't playing my Hawkeyes. <br /><br />I won't say that the call by the referees cost the Cyclones the game, but even someone with an admitted pro-referee bias can admit that the importance of calls are magnified late in a close game. If that one call had gone ISU's way they would have had an upper hand in the game that could have proved decisive.<br /><br />In the case of the ISU-OSU call I would argue instead that Craft was late getting into position to take the charge (I know...judgment call). It looked to me like he slid into place after the ISU player had already left his feet for the layup regardless of whether his foot was on the line, hovering over the line, etc.JT88Keyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14030012435363552208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-27568986676034624772013-03-24T23:00:24.214-05:002013-03-24T23:00:24.214-05:00Does a more extended use of the replay have any pl...Does a more extended use of the replay have any place in college basketball?Memphis MOJOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653631347560307425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1169281096117913024.post-90277280398695210212013-03-24T17:55:46.906-05:002013-03-24T17:55:46.906-05:00Good post. Even the broadcast crew afterwards sai...Good post. Even the broadcast crew afterwards said that in real-time it was hard to see the foot and that it wasn't definitive that it was on the line(granted, part of the crew was Charles Barkley, who kept saying Iowa State was robbed). Also, they mentioned that it isn't a reviewable play. Referees aren't perfect, although a perceived blown call late in a close certainly is magnified.cokeboy99https://www.blogger.com/profile/02841325742367258391noreply@blogger.com